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Frank's avatar

I believe that even those who wish the English team success may begin to realize that the mentality is to always blame other factors, but never the performance of the team itself.

Seamus's avatar

I'm old enough to remember Alis tartan army back in 76,the come down after that was a good lesson, go along,enjoy it for as long as we can and applaud the team for its efforts.....

Makes for a better experience than going and coming back on a downer because we didn't win what we were never going to win anyways.....

Craig Harry's avatar

There may be a job for uou soon Andy if tge English FA tear up the manager's contract

Beyond the Ratings's avatar

Doesn’t help when the same fans can’t decide if very similar approaches are tactically brave or naivety that was always going to lead to defeat as well…

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Guy Oliver's avatar

The schadenfreude is shared by English fans every time Scotland fans believe they will qualify for the knockout rounds - or even qualify for tournaments in the first place😀 Joking aside, I commented on an article of yours Andy when Scotland were knocked out pointing to the number of foreigners in the Scottish League. You are in a better place to develop local talent but I guess England has the advantage of numbers. The FA have spent millions developing St George’s Park and related infrastructure on the Clairefontaine model, following the examples of both France and Spain. Coaching the coaches for want of a better description. England is already in a better place than it was 10 years ago in the aftermath of the Iceland debacle. Two World Cups at youth level, two European titles and a World Cup final for the women, two European Finals since Iceland, two World Cup semi-finals and a quarter-final since the Brazil 2014 disaster and the end of the Golden Generation that wasn’t even a silver or a bronze generation. Something clicked for France in 1998 and for Spain in 2008 when all their planning and development paid off. I think England are perhaps among the best placed nations to follow in the footsteps of these two. Who knows?

Tommy McQuillan's avatar

Well said Andy the entitlement of the English media, and pundits is like that of the Ibrox club's supporters and that's probably why a lot of that support identify as England supporters. Their elitist attitude like that of the English is based on the square root of f**k all, I don't know what all the hype about the EPL is as you rightly say about 70% of their league's made up of foreign players. The product might be technically better but I can honestly say that it's a boring league, I'd much rather watch a Scottish game any day of the week. They say that the SPFL is a two horse race but so is theirs only Man City or Arsenal can really win it you might get the occasional outlier but pretty much the last few seasons it's pretty much been those two. There's bang average players down there making £100,000 to £200,000 per week and they wouldn't get in the top three sides up here. You also called it right with the schadenfreude it's so good to see them expect things only to fall flat at the first decent test, I'll never tire of laughing at them for that. Until they accept they're just not as good as they think then, like the Ibrox club, they're going to have face that they're overhyped prima donnas without any justification or evidence to back up their claims.

Gary Wilson's avatar

A balanced article that encapsulates the failings of the English national team.

They have useful players but within the premier league they are not the standout players within that league. Many are made to look better than they are by the quality of the foreign players in their teams.

The next few days will be interesting but with a German manager you know who’s going to take the flak. A manager who the game before had 5 moves in play is now seen as hopeless. Sums up English press and fans.

Interestingly I watch the final 20 minutes - there was a spell of around 12 minutes where England only managed 2 passes. One of the biggest culprits was Pickford who kept kicking long and handing back possession to Argentina. If you can’t pass the ball it doesn’t matter who the manager is.

So really good article that covers Englands shortfall.