As Scotland fans light up the USA with humour, celebration, and warmth, England supporters once again drift into a damaging, all-too-familiar territory.
I take it you dont read any of my articles Alan, because I dont skirt around any Glasgow derby and the scenes that unfolded after games etc. I highlight them, I call them out in fact. Have been doing it for 20 years.
I too have enjoyed watching the Jocks parade around Boston, but your slightly smug celebration of the tartan invasion is also a tad exaggerated in order to perpetuate the myth of England fan behaviour. I have family in Boston and they report friendly banter between fans from both sides of our border. You may have heard of a little trouble in Texas but again the vast majority of fans and their families are having fun, all much appreciated by the locals.
And by the way, I guess you’ll be skirting around the repetitively disgusting scenes at every Old Firm game for the last ….century?…in Glasgow? So don’t be too sanguine about Scottish fans until you’ve wiped out that sectarian obscenity maybe?
Hopefully the Scottish fans keep up their good natured bantery and bonhomie which they are world renowned for, and hopefully the English fans don't let the side down either. After the distasteful scenes we have seen with football casuals and neds this year in Scotland, it is to be hoped that commonsense, restraint and self discipline wins over drink/drug fueled violence and mayhem.
A bit of historical context would help here Andy. Scottish hooliganism was a very real thing in the sixties and seventies. It seems that while English carried on causing havoc around Europe, the Scots realised that the same nationalistic culture was better served up as humour rather than aggression. There are less of you and it’s easier to create that narrative. English nationalism never had the same trajectory. In recent tournaments, even if there wasn’t violence, you just wouldn’t want to be around English fans and I fear that Reform UK and the vile Restore whatever their name is, are manifestations of a nationalism that has always bubbled under the surface but which has now been unleashed again thanks to Brexit.
I was on train from London to Glasgow in 1966when someone in the club car pulled the emergency brake: England had defeated West Germany for the World Cup. In Glasgow, a friend called out to a newspaper man, “Hey, Joe, England won the World Cup.”
The Scotsman responded, “Aye,but Scotland has the bonnier team.” Note: saw the oldest home in Glasgow—owner Andrew Muirhead. Elizabeth Smith
I take it you dont read any of my articles Alan, because I dont skirt around any Glasgow derby and the scenes that unfolded after games etc. I highlight them, I call them out in fact. Have been doing it for 20 years.
I too have enjoyed watching the Jocks parade around Boston, but your slightly smug celebration of the tartan invasion is also a tad exaggerated in order to perpetuate the myth of England fan behaviour. I have family in Boston and they report friendly banter between fans from both sides of our border. You may have heard of a little trouble in Texas but again the vast majority of fans and their families are having fun, all much appreciated by the locals.
And by the way, I guess you’ll be skirting around the repetitively disgusting scenes at every Old Firm game for the last ….century?…in Glasgow? So don’t be too sanguine about Scottish fans until you’ve wiped out that sectarian obscenity maybe?
Hopefully the Scottish fans keep up their good natured bantery and bonhomie which they are world renowned for, and hopefully the English fans don't let the side down either. After the distasteful scenes we have seen with football casuals and neds this year in Scotland, it is to be hoped that commonsense, restraint and self discipline wins over drink/drug fueled violence and mayhem.
A bit of historical context would help here Andy. Scottish hooliganism was a very real thing in the sixties and seventies. It seems that while English carried on causing havoc around Europe, the Scots realised that the same nationalistic culture was better served up as humour rather than aggression. There are less of you and it’s easier to create that narrative. English nationalism never had the same trajectory. In recent tournaments, even if there wasn’t violence, you just wouldn’t want to be around English fans and I fear that Reform UK and the vile Restore whatever their name is, are manifestations of a nationalism that has always bubbled under the surface but which has now been unleashed again thanks to Brexit.
I was on train from London to Glasgow in 1966when someone in the club car pulled the emergency brake: England had defeated West Germany for the World Cup. In Glasgow, a friend called out to a newspaper man, “Hey, Joe, England won the World Cup.”
The Scotsman responded, “Aye,but Scotland has the bonnier team.” Note: saw the oldest home in Glasgow—owner Andrew Muirhead. Elizabeth Smith